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One Year to Win It: Soto and Torres

By: Ethan Semendinger

February 16th, 2024

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Brian Cashman had some comments on the contract statuses about Juan Soto and Gleyber Torres yesterday. Let's talk about them.

 

Juan Soto:

The Yankees made a major splash early on during the hot stove season to acquire Juan Soto from the San Diego Padres. At the time, this was a hopeful sign of the Yankees making an all-in push on the 2024 season as they had just acquired Alex Verdugo in a separate trade and also brought in Trent Grisham from the Padres. Some important pieces were moved away from- mainly the likes of Michael King and Drew Thorpe- to facilitate these moves, but early on there was a lot of hope on the horizon for Yankees fans.


Unfortunately, the offseason stagnated from here and though there are still potential moves that could be made (*cough* *cough* Blake Snell and Cody Bellinger are still out there!), it seems as though the Yankees have their roster going into the 2024 season.


Is it enough to win?


To me, that's the biggest question in keeping Juan Soto.


Now, it's not a surprise that Brian Cashman thinks Juan Soto will test free agency. It's something we all have a good inkling about, as Soto is a client of Scott Boras: the most notorious contract negotiator in the MLB, who rarely (if ever) signs extensions with teams during a contract year. And, while Scott Boras clients often seem to chase the money (as it in his their and his best interest to do so), with those dollar figures needs to be a team that wins.


If the Yankees can show Juan Soto that they are a winning franchise, with a winning environment and culture, that gives them a large competitive advantage in his pending sweepstakes. It would help make them a team to re-sign with, instead of leaving for somewhere else next offseason.

 

Gleyber Torres

Gleyber Torres has been a mainstay in the Yankees infield since 2018. Since then, he has proven to be a very good- though at times, incredibly frustrating to watch- player. He is now entering into his 7th year in pinstripes and it looks like it will be his last confirmed season in the Bronx.


That doesn't mean he won't be back, but given Brian Cashman's comments, it appears as though the Yankees are willing to play-ball with the situation surrounding their long-term second baseman and his future with the ballclub.


Currently, the Yankees have a second baseman under contract through the 2026 season in DJ LeMahieu. He serves as a clear option to take over the position full-time if Gleyber Torres was to leave in free agency.


Outside of LeMahieu, the Yankees also have a plethora of infield talent among the likes of Oswald Peraza and Jorbit Vivas (acquired for Trey Sweeney this offseason). Both of these players are ready to play at the MLB level, and given their low salary and young age, they could be the future options allowing the Yankees to move on from Torres.


Given all this, it would seem unsurprising the Yankees haven't had a discourse with Torres and his team about a potential extension, though this does leave me the most intrigued.


I have always been hesitant around Gleyber, but the stats back him up better than I believe he is: a pretty consistent 3.0 bWAR player. That's comfortably in the range of being hard to replace, but not good enough for a superstar contract. The fact that there has been, apparently, no communication about extensions leads me to believe the Yankees are playing with Torres for their last season.

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8 Comments


Jeff Korell
Jeff Korell
Feb 16

The Yankees need to keep Gleyber Torres and meet his contract demands specifically because he is an "Orioles Killer". He notoriously destroys Orioles pitching, and now that the Orioles are shaping up as arguably the Yankees toughest competition in the division, the Yankees will need someone who can destroy their pitching on a regular basis. Torres has continued to hit well against the Orioles even now that they have a very good team over there. So the Yankees will need to hold on to him, if nothing else, for that specific reason.

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jjw49
Feb 17
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Well Jeff we just disagree as of today Peraza hasn’t really been in the lineup enough to know how he would do as everyday SS so in my mind the duo of him and Volpe having a lower ceiling could be true but until given the opportunity we’ll never know. I don’t care if Torres ends up like the players you mentioned he won’t give Yankees a hometown discount. Torres has a high trade value and that will be why he is moved at deadline. Yankees would get younger in infield and cheaper which is major point for Yankees moving into next year especially with Soto being a free agent.

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fuster
Feb 16

baffling to me that people take public comments by negotiators at face value

rather than understand that speech meant to be disseminated is not fully indicative

of hopes and goals.


the 2024 Yankee team is neither fully set nor unlikely to be changed


and the retention of Torres .... or even Boras' Soto .... is, as of yet, far from determined

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Frank Graziadei
Frank Graziadei
Feb 16

Even if you have a preference not to sign Torres, you should at least contact the player's representative to determine how much the player will cost and for how many years the player is seeking and whether the player will accept a contract with team options or the lack of a no-trade clause. These negotiations will take time but they do not necessarily mean that you will sign the player. It gives the Yankees knowledge of the cost to retain Torres. Maybe the Yankees can determine his trade value with such a contract in place. Maybe the Yankees can strike a good deal and keep him. Personally, he does not hustle and I would try to trade him. But m…

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ldegraphics
Feb 16

Honestly, I question any move Cashman makes, I think he is incompetent. His moves baffle me and many fans. But like government they know so much more than us....LOL

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fuster
Feb 16
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that you're baffled is understandable


that you believe Cashman to be incompetent is .............. idiosyncratic

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